Comments on: The flag on Anzac House by Joe Maxwell http://blog.awm.gov.au/awm/2007/11/16/the-flag-on-anzac-house-by-joe-maxwell/ Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:15:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: ROGER HALL http://blog.awm.gov.au/awm/2007/11/16/the-flag-on-anzac-house-by-joe-maxwell/#comment-2077 ROGER HALL Wed, 19 Nov 2008 04:16:48 +0000 http://blog.awm.gov.au/awm/2007/11/16/the-flag-on-anzac-house-by-joe-maxwell/#comment-2077 My grandfather Willam Ernest Hall was awarded a military medal for bravery at Anzac Ridge.I was wondering if you could tell me exactly where Anzac ridge is and if there are any pictures of it? thanks Roger My grandfather Willam Ernest Hall was awarded a military medal for bravery at Anzac Ridge.I was wondering if you could tell me exactly where Anzac ridge is and if there are any pictures of it?
thanks Roger

]]> By: Pauline Mitchell http://blog.awm.gov.au/awm/2007/11/16/the-flag-on-anzac-house-by-joe-maxwell/#comment-1798 Pauline Mitchell Wed, 07 May 2008 13:05:15 +0000 http://blog.awm.gov.au/awm/2007/11/16/the-flag-on-anzac-house-by-joe-maxwell/#comment-1798 <p>My grandmother's cousin was in the 18th Battalion [1-13 Reinforcements, 5th Brigade} I wonder if he knew ANZAC House? His name was Private Sidney Lawrence Moore 3902 and he put his age up to enlist. He returned unscathed to Australia in 1920 and with the advent of WW2, he put his age back to enlist again. He was captured after the fall of Singapore and <a href="http://www.awm.gov.au/roh/person.asp?p=147-16684" rel="nofollow">died</a> on the Burma Railway just days before peace was declared. I found his photo on the AWM website and it was like meeting him after all my research. Such sacrifice.<br /> Pauline</p> <strong>Editor's response:</strong> Thanks for your comment Pauline, I'm sure he would have seen Anzac House up close. From Passchendaele to Sandakan. A truly Australian odyssey worthy of remembrance. Craig Tibbitts Australian War Memorial My grandmother’s cousin was in the 18th Battalion [1-13 Reinforcements, 5th Brigade} I wonder if he knew ANZAC House? His name was Private Sidney Lawrence Moore 3902 and he put his age up to enlist. He returned unscathed to Australia in 1920 and with the advent of WW2, he put his age back to enlist again. He was captured after the fall of Singapore and died on the Burma Railway just days before peace was declared. I found his photo on the AWM website and it was like meeting him after all my research. Such sacrifice.
Pauline

Editor’s response: Thanks for your comment Pauline, I’m sure he would have seen Anzac House up close. From Passchendaele to Sandakan. A truly Australian odyssey worthy of remembrance.

Craig Tibbitts
Australian War Memorial

]]> By: aaron maxwell http://blog.awm.gov.au/awm/2007/11/16/the-flag-on-anzac-house-by-joe-maxwell/#comment-1797 aaron maxwell Wed, 16 Apr 2008 00:43:34 +0000 http://blog.awm.gov.au/awm/2007/11/16/the-flag-on-anzac-house-by-joe-maxwell/#comment-1797 if someone has any stuff of his i would like to hear joe was my great great uncle and i am doin a assiment of him thanks..aaron if someone has any stuff of his i would like to hear joe was my great great uncle and i am doin a assiment of him thanks..aaron

]]> By: harry kline http://blog.awm.gov.au/awm/2007/11/16/the-flag-on-anzac-house-by-joe-maxwell/#comment-1796 harry kline Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:26:46 +0000 http://blog.awm.gov.au/awm/2007/11/16/the-flag-on-anzac-house-by-joe-maxwell/#comment-1796 dear craig, please have a read of... http://www.adb.online.anu.edu.au/biogs/A100447b.htm at the end, is it true that joe maxwell _did not_ serve in ww2 ? If such a prestigious publication has it wrong, what a bloody dis-service to an amazing man. Many years ago thought an uncle mentioned a rather ribald story about him during training in england for ww 2, said he was a tru man's man, knowing when to turn that 'switch' on and knowing when to bury it. This was, he said, the janus gene which is in all of us, didn't know what that meant as a kid, suppose a reflection of the two faces necessary to survive. love your work harry k <strong>Editor's response:</strong> Hi Harry, ADB says Maxwell was initially knocked back for WWII service because of his age (at least 43), but managed to join up later in QLD under a false name. He was apparently discovered and discharged. Wigmore's book on VC winners 'They dared mightily', says much the same thing, except that he was given a position in a training battalion. So it seems he served in some capacity but for how long I don't know. National Archives of Australia should have his personal service dossier if you were really keen to track down the real story. Of course that wouldn't be easy to find if he was using a false identity and fibbing about his age. I reckon those best able to deal with the stress of life on the Western Front would have been the ones who could 'switch on' when they needed to, and switch off, not dwell on things or think too deeply, and enjoy themselves when they were out of the line. Cheers, Craig. dear craig,
please have a read of… http://www.adb.online.anu.edu.au/biogs/A100447b.htm
at the end, is it true that joe maxwell _did not_ serve in ww2 ? If such a prestigious publication has it wrong, what a bloody dis-service to an amazing man. Many years ago thought an uncle mentioned a rather ribald story about him during training in england for ww 2, said he was a tru man’s man, knowing when to turn that ’switch’ on and knowing when to bury it. This was, he said, the janus gene which is in all of us, didn’t know what that meant as a kid, suppose a reflection of the two faces necessary to survive.

love your work
harry k

Editor’s response: Hi Harry, ADB says Maxwell was initially knocked back for WWII service because of his age (at least 43), but managed to join up later in QLD under a false name. He was apparently discovered and discharged. Wigmore’s book on VC winners ‘They dared mightily’, says much the same thing, except that he was given a position in a training battalion. So it seems he served in some capacity but for how long I don’t know. National Archives of Australia should have his personal service dossier if you were really keen to track down the real story. Of course that wouldn’t be easy to find if he was using a false identity and fibbing about his age. I reckon those best able to deal with the stress of life on the Western Front would have been the ones who could ’switch on’ when they needed to, and switch off, not dwell on things or think too deeply, and enjoy themselves when they were out of the line.

Cheers,
Craig.

]]> By: Doug Wilson http://blog.awm.gov.au/awm/2007/11/16/the-flag-on-anzac-house-by-joe-maxwell/#comment-1795 Doug Wilson Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:30:12 +0000 http://blog.awm.gov.au/awm/2007/11/16/the-flag-on-anzac-house-by-joe-maxwell/#comment-1795 My great uncle <a href="http://www.awm.gov.au/roh/person.asp?p=145-10180" rel="nofollow">2nd Lt Cecil Cleary</a> served in the 18th Battalion and was killed on the morning of 20 September 1917 at Third Ypes. I have a document from his war service record that states he was buried near Anzac House. Your article has helped clarify this reference for me - thanks! I will be travelling to Flanders in April and I am hoping to locate the area near Westhoek Ridge where the 18th Battalion was engaged that day. I would appreciate any assistance in locating a detailed map of operations relating to this attack. Best wishes Doug Wilson Editor's response: Hi Doug, glad you found this blog useful. You can find detailed maps of the battlefields in the unit war diaries which are available online. Check the diaries of the various levels of command (i.e. 18th Battalion, 5th Brigade, 2nd Division, I Anzac Corps). You tend to find more maps in the higher-level commands and less in the lower-levels. They're usually towards the end of each month's diary. The diaries are arranged by month, so obviously go for September 1917. Use the following links: Corps and Division level: http://www.awm.gov.au/diaries/ww1/diary.asp?diary=58 Brigade and Battalion level: http://www.awm.gov.au/diaries/ww1/diary.asp?diary=82 Good luck & Cheers, Craig Tibbitts Curator Official Records Research Centre Australian War Memorial. My great uncle 2nd Lt Cecil Cleary served in the 18th Battalion and was killed on the morning of 20 September 1917 at Third Ypes. I have a document from his war service record that states he was buried near Anzac House. Your article has helped clarify this reference for me - thanks! I will be travelling to Flanders in April and I am hoping to locate the area near Westhoek Ridge where the 18th Battalion was engaged that day. I would appreciate any assistance in locating a detailed map of operations relating to this attack.

Best wishes
Doug Wilson

Editor’s response: Hi Doug, glad you found this blog useful. You can find detailed maps of the battlefields in the unit war diaries which are available online. Check the diaries of the various levels of command (i.e. 18th Battalion, 5th Brigade, 2nd Division, I Anzac Corps). You tend to find more maps in the higher-level commands and less in the lower-levels. They’re usually towards the end of each month’s diary. The diaries are arranged by month, so obviously go for September 1917. Use the following links:

Corps and Division level: http://www.awm.gov.au/diaries/ww1/diary.asp?diary=58
Brigade and Battalion level: http://www.awm.gov.au/diaries/ww1/diary.asp?diary=82

Good luck & Cheers,

Craig Tibbitts
Curator Official Records
Research Centre
Australian War Memorial.

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